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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Shrine Exposition Hall on 1967-11-10
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- Publication date
- 1967-11-10 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Tim Dalton, Charlie Miller, SIRMick
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 778.0M
Set 1
Viola Lee Blues
It Hurts Me Too
Beat It On Down The Line
Morning Dew
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
That's It For The Other One
New Potato Caboose >
Alligator >
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)
"Amazing Electric Wonders" - Other artist(s): Buffalo Springfield; Blue Cheer
Following the release of "30 Trips" we now know that this was what they played
Viola Lee Blues
It Hurts Me Too
Beat It On Down The Line
Morning Dew
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
That's It For The Other One
New Potato Caboose >
Alligator >
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)
"Amazing Electric Wonders" - Other artist(s): Buffalo Springfield; Blue Cheer
Following the release of "30 Trips" we now know that this was what they played
Notes
Comments:
- Following the release of "30 Trips" we now know the correct setlist.
- "Viola Lee" fades in
- Garcia "Take advantage of the time to err, take of your clothes, order a pizza, maybe catch a bus, get high. Tootin' here at the performance, that's fine"
Thanks to Tim and Charlie for this source
Crank this one up to 11.
edited and mastered
SIRMick
February 2018
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- 2018-02-22 22:52:04
- Identifier
- gd1967-11-10.141132.sbd.dalton.miller.sirmick.flac1644
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
- Run time
- 94:56.63
- Taped by
- Tim Dalton
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller and SIRMick
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Shrine Exposition Hall
- Year
- 1967
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Reviews
(9)
Reviewer:
elislowlander
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April 7, 2025
Subject: Truly Warlocks
Subject: Truly Warlocks
Well I guess they took my review down, probably for talking too much about magic and associated potions lol. Busted for smiling on a cloudy day!!! But
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yeah, this Caution is truly wizard music. I was in the zone a few years ago around a fire in my yard with the system turned up, and my meditative zen state combined with the absolute volcanic eruption at the end of Caution literally made a log at the edge of the pit burst into flames out of nowhere, precisely in time with the music. Then Pig tells us that all you need is a touch of that Mojo Hand, which is literally magic witchcraft. (the good kind) This is portal stuff, Buckle Up Kidz!!! (And yes, if you're ever in Sebastopol ask some heads if they know Erik who lived on Trixie's mountain and we can have a sesh lol)
Reviewer:
Sister Viola Lee
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February 16, 2023
Subject: I wanna hang out too Erik
Subject: I wanna hang out too Erik
These are very interesting reviews! Erik, sounds like you might live in Wonderland, I want to hang out near the fire with that sound system you mentioned
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and listen to Grateful Dead too!
I'm on Morning Dew ... nice clear vocals and the faster tempo lotsa energy. I love Viola Lee Blues, all of them I've ever heard. Opening bass. line GMLSG, sounds so clear , all of them!
I'm on Morning Dew ... nice clear vocals and the faster tempo lotsa energy. I love Viola Lee Blues, all of them I've ever heard. Opening bass. line GMLSG, sounds so clear , all of them!
Reviewer:
Bruce Matzkin
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November 30, 2022
Subject: Hey Erik Morse...
Subject: Hey Erik Morse...
Can I come hang out some time?
Reviewer:
Uncle Judas
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August 1, 2021
Subject: Yep, this is 5-plus stars
Subject: Yep, this is 5-plus stars
This summer I've been mostly listening to 1969, with some various excursions (1981, 1972, 1968)... but I am happy to report that this 1967 show is crazy
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fuggin good!
Viola Lee-- C'mon, a 15-minute version of a classic pre/Primal Dead performance and song, with classic primal Viola Lee Jerry? Yes please! I love this song for a lot of reasons, including Garcia's rapid-fire solos during the theme jams, as well as the inevitable "meltdowns". This version is sans meltdown, but has everything else including some gorgious group harmonies. Love it!
Hurts me Too-- Honestly, just as satisfying as any '72 version. Classic Pig/Jerry/rhythm section stuff here
Morning Dew-- I actually usually skip over this song, if I'm in a good personal mood, but based on one of the reviews I read below I decided to give it a whirl. Verdict: Heck yeah, this is very good. Faster tempo, but more Baroque than even the Barton Hall version I typically compare Dews to. I like this, including the "Tuning" before the song, at the end of Hurts Me Too. (This actually reminds me of a Playing in the Band tuning/semi-jam)
Schoolgirl--- Well see, usually I almost always skip over this tune, because (A) I know it so well, and (B) there usually isn't much variation between versions. It's about ten minutes long, Pigpen sings and half-raps, and that's it. This version happens to be pristine, and I dug the ever-slowing tempo at the end. Great sound quality, and some diggin' Jerry riffs in the middle of it. Best ever version?... I have no idea. It's good enough to listen to, and I enjoyed it. (Surprisingly.)
Cryptical > TOO > Cryptical Reprise-- Oh heck yeah, this hits all the marks. Amazing sounding recording, vicious attack/performance, and a segue into New Potato Caboose > Alligator > Caution? FUGG to the YEAH!
New Potato-- Seems like a lot of folks who comment on the Archive don't like this song very much, which I find strange. This is certainly a very good version. (** I still wonder who played those tinkling notes..It reminds me of a Brent-era synthesizer, but I refuse to accept this as a possibility). Frankly, New Potato Caboose, if it had the Beach Boys harmonies, would have been as big a hit as Good Vibrations: great harmony vocals, psychedelic almost beachy flavor, and just overall near-perfection.)
Alligator-- Okay, I'm no Alligator expert. But this version is smokin' hot. Best version ever, probably not... the Boys were pretty freakin' hot between 68-71, when this song was in the rotation. But Top 10? I would HAVE to think so. Wow. Wow-wow-wow
Caution (Do Not Step on the Tracks)-- I can't recall exactly how many full Cautions I have listened to over the years. Probably less than a dozen, because... it's, well, sort of a matter of taste. This one killed it for me, I love this version. I actually saved it to disk for future end of world listening.
Overall-- 5 stars for the sound, 5 stars for the show itself. Do yourself a favor and listen to this show at some point..
(Note: there is another copy of this show on the Archive which breaks down the individual song-lets, and also has an inexplicable Neal Cassady rap from three months earlier. Which is cool if you haven't heard that Neil rap before, otherwise I think the minuscule gaps between "songlets" is distracting and the filler material only disturbs the flow. I prefer and recommend this source.)
Viola Lee-- C'mon, a 15-minute version of a classic pre/Primal Dead performance and song, with classic primal Viola Lee Jerry? Yes please! I love this song for a lot of reasons, including Garcia's rapid-fire solos during the theme jams, as well as the inevitable "meltdowns". This version is sans meltdown, but has everything else including some gorgious group harmonies. Love it!
Hurts me Too-- Honestly, just as satisfying as any '72 version. Classic Pig/Jerry/rhythm section stuff here
Morning Dew-- I actually usually skip over this song, if I'm in a good personal mood, but based on one of the reviews I read below I decided to give it a whirl. Verdict: Heck yeah, this is very good. Faster tempo, but more Baroque than even the Barton Hall version I typically compare Dews to. I like this, including the "Tuning" before the song, at the end of Hurts Me Too. (This actually reminds me of a Playing in the Band tuning/semi-jam)
Schoolgirl--- Well see, usually I almost always skip over this tune, because (A) I know it so well, and (B) there usually isn't much variation between versions. It's about ten minutes long, Pigpen sings and half-raps, and that's it. This version happens to be pristine, and I dug the ever-slowing tempo at the end. Great sound quality, and some diggin' Jerry riffs in the middle of it. Best ever version?... I have no idea. It's good enough to listen to, and I enjoyed it. (Surprisingly.)
Cryptical > TOO > Cryptical Reprise-- Oh heck yeah, this hits all the marks. Amazing sounding recording, vicious attack/performance, and a segue into New Potato Caboose > Alligator > Caution? FUGG to the YEAH!
New Potato-- Seems like a lot of folks who comment on the Archive don't like this song very much, which I find strange. This is certainly a very good version. (** I still wonder who played those tinkling notes..It reminds me of a Brent-era synthesizer, but I refuse to accept this as a possibility). Frankly, New Potato Caboose, if it had the Beach Boys harmonies, would have been as big a hit as Good Vibrations: great harmony vocals, psychedelic almost beachy flavor, and just overall near-perfection.)
Alligator-- Okay, I'm no Alligator expert. But this version is smokin' hot. Best version ever, probably not... the Boys were pretty freakin' hot between 68-71, when this song was in the rotation. But Top 10? I would HAVE to think so. Wow. Wow-wow-wow
Caution (Do Not Step on the Tracks)-- I can't recall exactly how many full Cautions I have listened to over the years. Probably less than a dozen, because... it's, well, sort of a matter of taste. This one killed it for me, I love this version. I actually saved it to disk for future end of world listening.
Overall-- 5 stars for the sound, 5 stars for the show itself. Do yourself a favor and listen to this show at some point..
(Note: there is another copy of this show on the Archive which breaks down the individual song-lets, and also has an inexplicable Neal Cassady rap from three months earlier. Which is cool if you haven't heard that Neil rap before, otherwise I think the minuscule gaps between "songlets" is distracting and the filler material only disturbs the flow. I prefer and recommend this source.)
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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May 12, 2021 (edited)
Subject: Primary source deadography
These shows were billed as the "Amazing Electric Wonders" concert. Along with "Dance and marvel each night, each night", posters mistakenly posted ... showtime as 9am to 1pm nightly, conceivably upsetting kids that came on their bikes that morning. The openers were Blue Cheer then the Dead, ahead of Buffalo Springfield. The Cheer were in L.A. recording their first album, but already had regional buzz about their live show. The briefly extant Springfield were at their peak, having just had their hit single and a high profile appearance at Monterey Pop (where they went on before the Dead). Neil had left the band several times by this point and Crosby had been stepping in for live gigs (their second album, out the next week, has three solo tracks from Neil).
This was Mickey's 4th or 5th show. It's good in a proto way. Jer's fretwork is repetitious within songs and he's still reusing licks show to show, but Bobby is expanding quickly and Phil is more aggressive than earlier in the year. Pig holds his own on organ throughout. 1hr45mins is a big set for an opening band. Stills & Furay were probably standing aside going "WTF, guys?!". Before the official release we had a partial SBD (missing BioDtL, Caboose, and the complete Viola), and a long-standing confusion between this and the next night, with songs from both circulating with either date (including a wrong date on 30 Days of Dead). Parts of this show were the first to be chopped for live track usage on Anthem. Luckily Healy ran two decks at the time (they were in an L.A. studio this week, also accumulating the studio portions of the album).
The quality Viola Lee is revealed on the multi-track version - part of the excitement is being able to hear Phil and Bobby's playing so clearly. Beat it On Down the Line-10 runs on the extra Jer licks. The beauty contest winner is Morning Dew; the best example of a '67. The final sequence has a wonderful first half. Cryptical is still brand new - it's probably the 3rd one. The Other One is peak '67. The reprise Cryptical relies on stock licks. Caboose is the 4th one we have, but had likely been played a dozen times since premiering in August. Here you can tell how much it sounded like it could be on After Bathing at Baxter's (the beginning is clipped on the SBD). The Alligator is healthy (turn on the hippies leave the heat alone). You'll recognize Anthem @15:10 in the frenzied but onanistic Caution. SBDs have a 13sec gap near the end of Feedback.
Overall = B- 3½ stars
Highlights:
Morning Dew - best example of era version
The Other One - X factored
SOURCES: The official release is super clear, from multi-track. It's on both 30 Trips and Shrine Exposition Hall vinyl (with Caution spread over two sides). Viola Lee is on The Definitive Live Story. The 141132_sbd_dalton is the slightly repitched SBD, with a wider image. The sacks_1612 has the channels switched and is missing New Potato. The 1967-11-11_116172_sbd is partially (mistakenly) from this date. Some sources circulated with a Neal Cassady rap from 7/23/67. A section of Caution is on Anthem.
Subject: Primary source deadography
These shows were billed as the "Amazing Electric Wonders" concert. Along with "Dance and marvel each night, each night", posters mistakenly posted ... showtime as 9am to 1pm nightly, conceivably upsetting kids that came on their bikes that morning. The openers were Blue Cheer then the Dead, ahead of Buffalo Springfield. The Cheer were in L.A. recording their first album, but already had regional buzz about their live show. The briefly extant Springfield were at their peak, having just had their hit single and a high profile appearance at Monterey Pop (where they went on before the Dead). Neil had left the band several times by this point and Crosby had been stepping in for live gigs (their second album, out the next week, has three solo tracks from Neil).
This was Mickey's 4th or 5th show. It's good in a proto way. Jer's fretwork is repetitious within songs and he's still reusing licks show to show, but Bobby is expanding quickly and Phil is more aggressive than earlier in the year. Pig holds his own on organ throughout. 1hr45mins is a big set for an opening band. Stills & Furay were probably standing aside going "WTF, guys?!". Before the official release we had a partial SBD (missing BioDtL, Caboose, and the complete Viola), and a long-standing confusion between this and the next night, with songs from both circulating with either date (including a wrong date on 30 Days of Dead). Parts of this show were the first to be chopped for live track usage on Anthem. Luckily Healy ran two decks at the time (they were in an L.A. studio this week, also accumulating the studio portions of the album).
The quality Viola Lee is revealed on the multi-track version - part of the excitement is being able to hear Phil and Bobby's playing so clearly. Beat it On Down the Line-10 runs on the extra Jer licks. The beauty contest winner is Morning Dew; the best example of a '67. The final sequence has a wonderful first half. Cryptical is still brand new - it's probably the 3rd one. The Other One is peak '67. The reprise Cryptical relies on stock licks. Caboose is the 4th one we have, but had likely been played a dozen times since premiering in August. Here you can tell how much it sounded like it could be on After Bathing at Baxter's (the beginning is clipped on the SBD). The Alligator is healthy (turn on the hippies leave the heat alone). You'll recognize Anthem @15:10 in the frenzied but onanistic Caution. SBDs have a 13sec gap near the end of Feedback.
Overall = B- 3½ stars
Highlights:
Morning Dew - best example of era version
The Other One - X factored
SOURCES: The official release is super clear, from multi-track. It's on both 30 Trips and Shrine Exposition Hall vinyl (with Caution spread over two sides). Viola Lee is on The Definitive Live Story. The 141132_sbd_dalton is the slightly repitched SBD, with a wider image. The sacks_1612 has the channels switched and is missing New Potato. The 1967-11-11_116172_sbd is partially (mistakenly) from this date. Some sources circulated with a Neal Cassady rap from 7/23/67. A section of Caution is on Anthem.
Reviewer:
taoish
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December 11, 2020
Subject: This Caution was used (in part) on Anthem of the Sun
Subject: This Caution was used (in part) on Anthem of the Sun
Not the jam part, for reasons I can't fathom, but the freeform "all you need" vocals.
Reviewer:
Monkeypaws
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December 7, 2020
Subject: Smokin hot show
Subject: Smokin hot show
Doesn't get much better than this for 67 Dead. Great sound, great playing.
Reviewer:
Magichord
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June 5, 2020 (edited)
Subject: magnificent 1967 brilliance
Subject: magnificent 1967 brilliance
First things first- Viola Lee here is monumental, a force to be reckoned with. I don't have a favorite version yet, but this became one of several favorites
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as soon as I was half-way through hearing it for the first time.
Morning Dew is a solid early version, very satisfying. I'm not big on GML Schoolgirl, but this version is excellent, at least as good as 2-14-68. Alligator is a primo, outstanding rendition featuring Mickey on congas, just like the following night. Everyone buy yourselves a really good desktop audio system, and save this web address for your streaming pleasure!
Morning Dew is a solid early version, very satisfying. I'm not big on GML Schoolgirl, but this version is excellent, at least as good as 2-14-68. Alligator is a primo, outstanding rendition featuring Mickey on congas, just like the following night. Everyone buy yourselves a really good desktop audio system, and save this web address for your streaming pleasure!
Reviewer:
mcgrupp216
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April 1, 2019
Subject: 2nd Trip Around the Sun
Subject: 2nd Trip Around the Sun
Here's the most recent upload of this show to the archive. It's excellent. The opening 15-minute Viola Lee Blues is featured on the 30 trips definitive
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live story. Also the first and - as yet - only stand-alone release from 30 trips, receiving the 180-gram vinyl treatment.
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